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    Fallout Lore | Lonesome Road is a criticsm of the philosophy of 'Personal Responsibility'

    Fallout Lore | Lonesome Road is a criticsm of the philosophy of 'Personal Responsibility'


    Lonesome Road is a criticsm of the philosophy of 'Personal Responsibility'

    Posted: 08 Apr 2021 06:09 PM PDT

    In the story, Ulysses entire motivation seems to be based around the idea of "Personal Responsilibty". He is completely convinced that the destruction of the Divide is entirely the fault of the Courier for delivering the package of the Nuclear Launch Detonator. He is utterly obsessed with the idea of "personal responisiblity", to the extent that he even states that this his motivation behind nuking the NCR's Long 15 Road...the belief that each person is entirely responsible for their own fate, and their own actions, is what leads him to believe that he, and he alone, can save civilisation by doing this. Even when the Courier attempts to point out that they did not know what was in the package, Ulysseus still clings to this idea that the Coruier is personally responsible for the havok that this causes.

    The thing is, though, that Ulysses is not only wrong, since Couriers deliver packages all the time without knowing what they are, in fact that's pretty much the job description, but he is living proof that his own philsophy does not work. Because, if we use his own "Personaly responisibility" logic, he is responsible for more evil than any other character in the entire game.

    It was Ulysses who told Caeser about Hoover Dam. It was Ulysses who told the Think Tank there was a world outside Big MT. It was Ulysses who made contact with the White Legs on behalf of the Legion. It was Ulysses who told Father Elijah how to get to Sierra Madre, and it is the Courier who manages to clean up after Ulysses and fix everything. He does not take any "personal responsibility" for these things, yet when the role is reversed, when the Courier does one thing which ends badly, suddenly Ulysses puts all the responsibility on THEM. The fact of the matter is, Ulysses is not "personally responsible" for these things, and neither is the Courier. The Legion is responsible for the battle of Hoover Dam and the White Legs and the Legion, or a similar tribe, would likely have cropped up in the Wasteland even if Caeser had never been born, because a Wasteland where every human civilisation has destroyed will naturally lead to the creation of a massive, cruel tribe that find a way to extend themsevles whatever the cost. Even if Father Elijah had never found the Sierra Madre, someone else would eventually have cracked the Secret of the Madre, and probably done much more damage. And The Courier is not responsible for delivering a package that he was asked to deliver. These things all occured, not because of one person's decision, but because of a huge number of events, most of which are Pre-War, that all lead to a single conclusion. This "Atlas" idea of trying to argue that a single person is responsible for the weight of the world does not align with reality.

    None of us know the full consequences of everything we do in life, and it is very likely that we will do things which we don't see as significant, but have massive effects down the line. And as we get more and more connected in a world with increasingly advanced technology, the amount of impact on the world each of us has only gets greater. Not only do each and all of us have a far greater impact on the world than we think, but many things in our lives are heavily impacted by decisions made by others. Therefore, to say that everything we do, every decision we make and every thing that affects are life is "personal responsibility" is absurd. Sure, there's obviously some room for personal responsibility in places, but people like Ulysses are so fixated, so obsessed, with this idea that they don't realise that the vast majority of things that happen are nothing to do with "personal responsibility", and are instead caused by a myriad of factors that have very little to do with a single person.

    John Dunne's poem "No Man is and Island"

    No man is an island entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main;

    If a clod be washed away by the sea, Europe is the less, as well as if a promontory were, as well as any manner of thy friends or of thine own were;

    Any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind.

    And therefore do not ask for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.

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    Dr Mobius may have attempted to create synths...

    Posted: 08 Apr 2021 06:52 PM PDT

    In the epilogue of New Vegas Old World Blues, if you leave Mobius alive, it says that, after creating better scorpions, he tried to do the same with humanity, with less success. Sounds very suspiciously like the Institute's "humanity redefined" plan...

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    Raven Rock pre- Autumn Sr

    Posted: 08 Apr 2021 01:54 PM PDT

    How much do we know about Raven Rock and what went on there before the arrival of Autumn Sr and the other survivors of the Oil Rig? Fallout 76 has a short conversation between MODUS and the ZAX that would one day become John Henry Eden, is that all we know?

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    How democratic was the U.S before the bombs?

    Posted: 08 Apr 2021 08:33 PM PDT

    The U.S has congress, senate, and president. Representatives to make laws and bills. So Canada was annexed by the US. If as a military conquered territory or as US territory like Guam or DC, I'm not or even if they say directly in the games. As a country in a state of war with China, and eventually Canada and Mexico; how much of the U.S's constitutional democratic Republic still stands in 2077 vs what we normally know it as. I'm assuming there was a Draft (All adults Serve or Service as Requirement) a war with China can be expensive as Manpower. Maybe in Martial Law in in several states with riots, protests, food shortages, or pre staged military units in national guard emergencies. A Boston Bugle article states that the President and his administration moved to the Oil Rig. Since there are "Commenwealths" now, are the states I can only assumed Congress and Senate were evacuated to their state'svault or moved to Greenbriar Vault. How much of the checks and limits were still standing at the start of the Great War?

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    What reammy happened in vault 111 ?

    Posted: 08 Apr 2021 03:54 PM PDT

    So the supervisor's terminal tells us that the vault is made for short term supervision, and that they ran out of supplies around 180 days after the vault closed. So how is it that the personnel of the vault apparently died of gunshots (we can see a bunch of impacts on the walls), probably fired by kellogs, who came 130 YEARS after the closure of the vault ? Am I missing something or is it just incoherent ?

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    Does Dirty Water have a different taste compared to Purified Water?

    Posted: 08 Apr 2021 07:37 PM PDT

    Jet being pre or post war

    Posted: 08 Apr 2021 10:47 PM PDT

    So I was watching my girlfriend play new vegas just now. On the top floor of the bison Steve motel there's a locked door. Inside are two skeletons, presumably pre war and inside a suitcase in that very room.... jet?? Yes jet, now I was always a skeptic of jet being a pre war drug, but this has made me think otherwise. Id like to hear what everyone has to say.

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    How does Nuka World draw its power from a power plant that is FUBAR?

    Posted: 08 Apr 2021 07:10 PM PDT

    So I was replaying Nuka World yesterday and after myself and a small army of minutemen took out the trash (feminist Legion wannabees, unsanitary furries, and two spoiled brats running a daycare) I was able to turn the power on at the power plant. I played Nuka World when it released but I guess this question never dawned on me, but, how does, what seems to be a nuclear power plant that melted down during or after the War, power Nuka World after a simple flick of the switch?

    If you look at the plant itself, the reactor towers (or whatever) outside clearly exploded. There's nothing inside that would indicate the plant is up and running on anything other than emergency generators. Even a terminal states there was a huge failure and it would be unwise to turn the plant on in its state. Also, even when the plant was running before the war the terminal stated how some Halloween-themed bash nearly overloaded the system. I'm paraphrasing the terminal entries but that's the gist. So you're telling me the power plant in this condition seamlessly powers all of Nuka World?

    So how does this plant work? Does it divert power from somewhere else? The dam at the northern part of the map is not hydroelectric like Hoover Dam as evidenced by the lack of intake towers and any active system. Even the pipes leading from the power plant to Nuka World are busted.

    There's either something I missed because I'm blind, the fact that I clearly wasn't made to be a civil or nuclear engineer, or Bethesda conveniently placed a button that could turn all of Nuka World on despite every in-game possibility of that occurring saying "no".

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    Shem drown sword hurts ghouls

    Posted: 08 Apr 2021 08:09 AM PDT

    Dunno if this is more gameplay then lore but a de. Went out of their way to do it. So most named legendaries jyst gave a override name and a standard if preselected legendary, grog Mack is truly unique, but also oddly ahem dries sword had a unique enchantment, while I. The surface it seems to just be an iradiated sword it actually has the Shem drown effect not iradiated, and interestingly iradiated has a condition that heals ghouls instead of harming them, Shem does NOT have this limit so it's radiation actually hurts ghouls, and the letter does talk about it being devil forged......

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    The US Declaration of Independence

    Posted: 08 Apr 2021 06:21 AM PDT

    How come it's only Abraham Washington who's interested in getting The US Declaration of Independence? Surely the Brotherhood would have found out about the declaration and would have got it since it is one of the most important things from pre-war America, so they'd want to preserve it. Since the declaration is so important come the brotherhood and other big factions haven't tried to take it earlier or at least found out about the declaration?

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