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    Fallout Lore | Pre-War Bomb Collars and Corporations


    Pre-War Bomb Collars and Corporations

    Posted: 21 Nov 2020 11:10 AM PST

    I noticed in Dead Money when you ask Elijah about the bomb collars he hypothesized that they were used by pre-war companies due to "compliance issues." Is there any evidence through any of the games that such a claim is true?

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    My Estimation of the Buying Power of a Cap

    Posted: 21 Nov 2020 06:30 PM PST

    This is mainly in Fallout 4 as I'm using those prices.

    Preface: We all know that inflation was rampant, as we can see magazines and other such books being sold for anywhere between $30-$60, and gas or "coolant" prices being well into the 100s of dollars. With that being said, gold and silver have always been a solid basis for an economy before the implementation of the "Petrol Dollar" which was established in 1973. So we can assume that the US was still on the Gold Standard. However, with the proliferation of the usage of Uranium, as can be extrapolated by the song "Uranium Fever" where it is stated that "Uranium is worth more than gold" it is possible that the US had moved from the Gold Standard to a Uranium Standard. All of these will be taken into account. So we will have 4 possibilities, with a Gold Economy, a "Petrol" Economy (current), and a Uranium Economy.

    GOLD:

    the gold prince in Fallout 4 is... odd. With one salvaged unit being worth 9 caps, and a shipment of 25 being worth 45 per unit. If we were to subtract 15% from the shipment (markup cost/retail price) we would get ~38. Average the two together and we get 23.5 or for simplicity 24 caps per unit. A unit of gold is about .1lbs so we get the cost of a pound at 240 caps.

    The price of a pound of gold in the US varies on the purity of the metal. As I doubt we are dealing with pure gold, I will say that the gold in fallout is 6K or 25% pure. that would bring the price of a pound of gold to $6,822. (using https://meltvalue.com/gold)

    If we do the math

    6882/240 = 28.675

    So we come One Cap having the buying power of $28.68 IF we use the gold standard.

    For some more numbers in order to better pin the number down, I will also be taking into account silver. Silver sells for 6 caps per unit, and 750 for a shipment of 25. Using the same methodology for gold, we come to 18 caps per unit and 180 for a pound. For IRL silver, using 75% purity, as the US standard for silver is around 82% and I will take into account for impurities that may come from refinement. 1lb of silver is $282.8

    Math time

    282.8/180 = ~$1.57 per cap.

    If we average those two out we get

    1cap = $15.1225 (USD 2020)

    PETROL:

    This is going to be more difficult. Considering there is no centralized banking in Fallout. So this might be impossible to determine. However, we can use analogs to see the prices of goods in 2077, and by using those we can extrapolate their buying power. It should also be noted that there are certain things that may have not retained their value. For instance, a bottle of water would be worth more than a coat in the wastelands due to it being rarer and more in demand. I think if we use arms we may be able to gain an idea of the value of a cap.

    The Assult Rife, being a prewar weapon the M199. Is an obvious analog for the real M16. They both fire 5.56 ammo and are part of the same family.

    So an M16 is priced at $673 for the government to buy, while a citizen may have to pay upwards of 30K. I will be using the $673 price as this is closer to its actual worth, without needing tax stamps and licenses to own.

    The M199 it worth around 182 caps.

    Doing the math

    673/182 = 3.69(nice)

    Using the analog of ammo...

    Using a box of Winchester 5.56, we can see that a box of 20 is being sold for $15 (On sale for 13 at https://www.sportsmansoutdoorsuperstore.com/category.cfm/sportsman/5.56-x-45-mm-nato-ammunition-for-sale if anyone is interested.) So we can take a box of fallout ammo for 60 caps. We can come to an IRL round for 70cents and a fallout round for 2 caps.

    .7/2= 1 cap is 35cents

    Averaging them out we get

    1 cap = $2.02

    Uranium:

    After doing some research I realized that it would be impossible for me to try and figure out the price of uranium as it was much more valuable than it ever had been today. For Uranium to be true "Worth more than gold" it would need to increase in value over 20 times as a pound of uranium is around $250 while "trash gold" or 6k gold is worth $6882. Because of this glaring discrepancy, I cannot make an educated or confident estimation.

    Conclusion

    Going off of a gold standard, we can assume that a Cap has the same buying power as ~$15 today, which would make the impoverished conditions much more believable as the price of food is extremely expensive. And in a "petrol" economy, we can see a Cap is roughly $2.

    That's it. If you have anything to add please do. I am not an economist or currency speculator. So if I made any glaring mistake please let me know with all the wrath and fury you can. Thank you.

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    How many people live in the NCR territories?

    Posted: 21 Nov 2020 10:44 AM PST

    I was thinking about how catastrophic was the great war for the united states citizens and how many population are 200 years after the great war. Do we have data about that? Thanks for answer me :')

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    How did Targeddy get the Brotherhood logo? Does the satellite connection in Fallout support image transmission?

    Posted: 22 Nov 2020 01:53 AM PST

    Is there a reason the Brotherhood vertibirds fly so low to the ground? (FO4)

    Posted: 21 Nov 2020 04:36 AM PST

    I noticed that the vertibirds in game only increase their altitude if they're trying to fly over some large buildings, but generally fly close enough to ground to be shot at.

    Is this just due to an engine limitation? It doesn't seem like the smartest thing to do, especially when transporting soldiers around.

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    Why was their multiple variants of prototype/new Power Armor at the precipice of the Great War

    Posted: 21 Nov 2020 09:47 PM PST

    I understand with the addition of the newer games (Fallout 4/76) They added new power armor but from a lore perspective, T-51 was considered the "pinnacle" of power armor. But before the bombs dropped, we had T-60 recently deployed in the US, T-65 Being utilized by the Secret Service, and X-01 being a prototype - but functional and used at the time before the GW. So why the need to develop so many (prototype?) models in such a miniscule timeframe? Why not stick with one model and focus on that? Was it a "Build as many as we can and see what works?"

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    Is there a reason the BoS don't start wearing X-02, Tesla X-02 and Hellfire Armor?

    Posted: 21 Nov 2020 12:30 PM PST

    Well after the events of Broken Steel and their victory over the Enclave, the Brotherhood of Steel should have a huge surplus of X-02 and Hellfire Armors, as well as Schematics but by Fallout 4, they're still using T-45 and T-60 Armors. I get it if they have tons of the T Series of Power Armor from old Military Bases and caches, but shouldn't X-02 and Hellfire Armors be more common in the Commonwealth Chapter of the BoS, especially since they all came from the Capital Wasteland.

    (I'm well aware X-02 and Hellfire Armors are Creation Club content, but they really should've been in the game aboard the Prydwen)

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